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It also allows for Miri of hip hop idol group Rhymeberry to go freestyle at hip hop events and gain some experience that way. This also allows for collaborations between other more underground groups вЂ“ BabymetalвЂ™s collaboration with Kiba of Akiba works because of their connection to Akihabara, nerd culture. Idol music is in many ways subculture more than it is mainstream, though it certainly is mainstream. Being able to aim music at a smaller demographic allows for more demographics to pop up within idol groups, and also offers idols the opportunity to exist on an underground music level. While IвЂ™m not sure where this shift happened (it may very well have been with Onyanko Club), idol fans are often nerds вЂ“ these are the people that have carried idol groups throughout the years when popularity wanes, and also the people that are fans of the smaller groups.

While pop music in American culture and a lot of cultures tends to be mostly popular culture, idol music has for quite some time existed with nerd culture вЂ“ fans of idols are вЂotakuвЂ™ in the same way that anime/manga fans are вЂotakuвЂ™ (though most Western idol fans tend to prefer to refer to themselves as wota). So considering Momoiro Clover Z didnвЂ™t add the Z until the middle of 2011 and it took a while for their simultaneous rise in popularity and strangeness, IвЂ™d suggest that while they definitely influenced later groups and the popularity of later groups, that the influence is more on the end of the idol culture existing as more of a subculture and also the content creators themselves.

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This all coincides with the start of the idol boom, which I would argue started at the end of 2009 with AKB48вЂ™s River hitting #1 on the Oricon charts (but I feel like most people would agree was in full force by the end of 2010 after AKB48вЂ™s Heavy Rotation was released). Babymetal had its origins in 2010 as a subgroup of Sakura Gakuin, and BiS was formed in 2010 as well. Throughout the video he points to Momoiro Clover Z paving the way for anti-idol groups, and while I do think that Momoiro Clover ZвЂ™s influence has been a big one IвЂ™m not sure IвЂ™d agree it was as big as it was. Seeing an actual look at the more underground idol culture and flat out looking at more than the first hit for AKB48 on YouTube (which for years was either Baby Baby Baby or Heavy Rotation, before the YouTube Red thing).ДЄll that being said, while his analysis is really great and explores idol culture in a way IвЂ™m surprised to see, IвЂ™m not sure things line up quite as neatly as they do in this video. ItвЂ™s clear that actual research and deep dives were done, which is a refreshing change from some of the journalism IвЂ™ve seen surrounding idol culture. So many journalists tend to see idols as a new phenomenon or a new trend (we saw that even in вЂњTokyo Girls,вЂќ which showed idols as something new rather than a continuing trend). Onyanko Club was really the originator of the вЂњmore is moreвЂќ philosophy that so many idol groups have today. Since I was so excited to see this pop up on my YouTube feed, I thought I would write a response here rather than in the YouTube comments, in case any of my blog readers are interested as well!ДЇirst off, I have to say IвЂ™m actually quite impressed with the research that Sam did in this video by citing Yamaguchi Momoe and Onyanko Club as progenitors вЂ“ while there were other groups IвЂ™d consider to be idol groups (Pink Lady, Candies) theyвЂ™re not really the same thing. As someone who follows a lot of the foreign press about idol culture, you tend to see it all devolve into some of the same arguments and just fundamentally miss the point about a lot of things (The recent BBC-aired documentary, вЂњTokyo Girls,вЂќ about idol fans calling handshakes an inherently sexual act will go down in infamy among other idol fans).

As a long time viewer of that channel, which explores strange and interesting subcultures, this felt like a great mix вЂ“ the channel has covered music genres before (the video about vaporwave helped me become a fan of the late great Especia) but the one thing IвЂ™ve always loved about This Exists is that it tends to keep an open mind.

The other day I was looking around for a video to watch on YouTube when I saw that one of my favorite channels, This Exists, made a video about idol culture, specifically the anti-idol / underground idol scene.